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CK, I'm no marathon training coach, but why don't you see how you feel after 20 miles then try to pick it up for the last 3? Even on a flat course I would consider that an excellent long run.
Can there really be NO hills where you're traveling?
Mike
ri_runner@hotmail.com
South County, RI USA
- Monday, August 25, 2003 at 10:41:26 (ET)
According to the training schedule that I'm using, I have my longest "long run" (23 mi.) coming up in three weeks. As it turns out, I will be travelling during this time, and it looks like I'll be forced to do this run on a dead flat course. My question is, should I adjust for this by running longer and/or using a faster pace, or is there any other way to make this final long run more effective?
CK
RI USA
- Sunday, August 24, 2003 at 12:05:29 (ET)
On the Ultima issue: Yes, we will use Ultima as our on course fluid replacement. The company was the only one to come forward to support us with product and we believe they have made significant improvements in the drink. The flavor this year will be either the orange or lemon-lime. For more information on Ultima please scroll down to the May 22 entry on this guestbook for comments by Seth Bovio of Ultima and you can directly e-mail him from there with further questions.
gerry beagan
osm26@ids.net
east greenwich, RI USA
- Saturday, August 23, 2003 at 20:15:55 (ET)
Which flavor Ultima will be used during the race. I want to try it on a few runs before I sign up for this marathon.
Dave S
dave.sousa@hansonprinting.com
USA
- Friday, August 22, 2003 at 13:56:03 (ET)
Great job to the race organizers for securing a title sponsor! Is it possible that we can get something other than Ultima at the water stops? It's been making me sick on my long runs. Anyone else having trouble keeping Ultima down?
Rhode Island
USA
- Friday, August 22, 2003 at 11:47:01 (ET)
In response to the last two entries: We will have energy bars provided by Smartfuel which will be placed in every runner goody bag. We do not, to date, have a sponsor providing any type of gel or gu. If we do receive that type of donation we would choose to also put that in the goody bag. It is our experience, in our event, and in running other events that placement of these items on course leads to some people not getting the product, getting it at a point in the event when they might not prefer it and an additional refuse problem on course that leads to slippery surfaces and significant increase in post race cleanup. In presenting runners with the product before the race they can use it when most convenient to their needs and perhaps they will hold onto the package rather than discard it on course.
As for the awards question. The quick answer is the awards you earn are the awards you receive. If a master 40 to 44 wins the race outright he claims both first overall and first in his age group and so on through the fields of both events. So, if the scenario presented happens and age group winners over age 39 fill out the first ten overall places, the 24-year-old in 11th place would, indeed, go home empty handed. We strongly doubt that would happen but it is reason enough for the person in question to train a bit harder and finish ahead of the old folks.
gerry beagan
osm26@ids.net
east greenwich, RI USA
- Tuesday, August 19, 2003 at 17:22:26 (ET)
I read the awards info and I'm a bit confused still. It says awards will go to that the top 10 finishers overall and the top three in age groups: Masters 40-44 and 45-49 Seniors 50-54 and 55-59 Veterans 60-64 and 65-69 Ultra Veterans 70+.
Does this mean that the open division (0-39) is only eligible for these awards if they are in the top 10 overall?
In other words, suppose a 24 year old man places 11th, behind 10 other men. He will not get an award even if everyone ahead of him was over 40 years old?
Mike
USA
- Tuesday, August 19, 2003 at 14:31:40 (ET)
How many water stations will be offering Gu or power bars?
nate
USA
- Monday, August 18, 2003 at 18:47:59 (ET)
Peter and all, The average low for the second week of October in 38 and the average high is 59, extremes are 60 and 80 respectively. The chance of rain is about 30 percent and average wind is just under 10 mph. Hope that helps.
gerry beagan
osm26@ids.net
east greenwich, RI USA
- Tuesday, August 12, 2003 at 18:14:05 (ET)
Gerry,
For the benefit of the 5 Houstonians I'm bringing with me, do you have average race day temp info for the past few years? Gracias amigo.
Pete Sloan
peter.sloan@earthlink.net
Houston, TX USA
- Tuesday, August 12, 2003 at 10:15:30 (ET)
Nob Hill, Beacon Hill, Beverly Hills.....it's true, there are hills in Rich Neighborhoods. Indeed, when we are doing the JOGGING TOUR of Providence Neighborhoods, at around the twentieth mile, (i'd like to live here!!) there are small hills. Imagine two-city-blocks.
Jon
USA
- Thursday, August 07, 2003 at 02:22:30 (ET)
OSM 2002 was my first marathon, so I'm not an expert on the relative difficulty of marathon courses. Ed's question is "Is the OSM course too hilly to run a Boston qualifying time?". In that hundreds of people at OSM 2002 ran qualifying times (I suspect), the answer is NO, the OSM course is not too hilly to run a Boston qaulifying time.
That being said, I did not qualify for Boston. In my age group I would have needed to run 3:10, and I was closer to 3:40. I had been running for less than a year at the time, so I'm confident I will qualify this year.
My opinion, for what it's worth, is that OSM is not a hilly course. It's probably hillier than Chicago or London, but it's not bad. In any event, it seems to me that if you want to run Boston (a hilly course) why would you want to use a flat course to qualify, only to run a relatively slow time at Boston?
Mike
USA
- Wednesday, August 06, 2003 at 12:55:55 (ET)
As Race Director I hesitate to answer questions about the relative ease or difficulty of our course but since there have been a few questions I will give my view with the hope that someone who has actually competed on the course as it was last year and is this year would chime in.
There is also a very accurate course description on these pages and a course profile that looks much more ominous than the course really is. To shrink 26.2 miles into a few inches makes even a molehill look ominous.
The course is primarily run at sea level and the highest elevation is just about 150 feet above seal level. The significant uphill sections are at 20 and at 23 miles. There are a few lesser grades along the course but none as significant as the latter two. Overall, I would rate the course as moderate but fully manageable for anyone having done the training to reach their goal over the distance. Even the easiest course will betray an unprepared athlete. The decided plus of the Providence course is the variety in terrain and scenery throughout and the loop configuration makes for numerous specatator, friend and family views of their favorite runner. I am anxious to read the comments, either pro or con, from someone who has run here.
gerry beagan
osm26@ids.net
east greenwich USA
- Tuesday, August 05, 2003 at 18:27:12 (ET)
2 Questions.
I'm trying to qualify for Boston. Is this course too hilly to run a qualifying time for Boston?
Also, will there be any GU/Gel stations on the course?
Thanks,
Ed
Ed
Lexington, MA USA
- Tuesday, August 05, 2003 at 15:15:43 (ET)
Could someone answer Dawn's question about the hills in this marathon please? I'm curious about this matter also. Thanks!
Cody
Boston, MA USA
- Tuesday, August 05, 2003 at 10:47:37 (ET)
Michael, In an organized race, you shouldn't have trouble with dehydration if you make use of the water stations. On the other hand, running with something on your back or waist is tough. Unless the hydration system is built for running, it will bounce a lot and make it virtually impossible to run.
I don't know about the Spyder system and if it's created for running. I do know that the Fuelbelt works well. It was designed for running and works because it splits up the water into six small containers (that go around your waist) so there isn't much bounce. It works well, and you might consider it for your training, but you really shouldn't need it for the race with the water stations.
John Elliott
JElliott@MarathonGuide.com
New York, NY USA
- Sunday, August 03, 2003 at 14:56:07 (ET)
To Everyone: The half marathon final two miles have been settled and a graphic representation will be put up on the web site shortly. A reminder, the first 11.1 miles of the marathon and half marathon are the same.
gerry beagan
osm26@ids.net
east greenwich, RI USA
- Saturday, August 02, 2003 at 17:23:32 (ET)
Fletcher, CLAIM a different spot for your short run. Go somewhere else. Do trail runs. Run through the city. Run late at night!!
idunno
USA
- Saturday, August 02, 2003 at 01:49:26 (ET)
OSM '03 will be my first marathon. I am considering using a spyder backpack hydration system as I often have problems with dehydration on longer runs. Does anyone use these back pack/fanny pack hydration systems on long runs? What are your experiences??
Michael
USA
- Friday, August 01, 2003 at 20:23:39 (ET)
This is going to be my first marathon. Mentally I'm not having any trouble with the longer training runs (up to 18 miles at this point), but I'm having real trouble getting myself out the door for my shorter runs during the week. Any suggestions on how to put a little more excitement back in these runs?
Fletcher
USA
- Friday, August 01, 2003 at 15:12:06 (ET)
Any idea when the rest of the half marathon course will be posted?
Keeping my fingers crossed for a sunny day.
Rich
USA
- Thursday, July 31, 2003 at 11:17:21 (ET)
There will be mile markers at every mile and digital clocks at 5, 10, 15, 20 and 25 miles. There will also be two ChampionChip recording points on the course in unspecified locations.
gerry beagan
osm26@ids.net
east greewnich, RI USA
- Wednesday, July 30, 2003 at 19:51:49 (ET)
Will there be Clocks or vocal time keepers at each mile? This is my first and I'm psyched!
Nate
USA
- Wednesday, July 30, 2003 at 13:52:30 (ET)
Entries for the marathon are comparable to last year's numbers at this point and half marathoners are coming in at a slower rate but are expected to be increasing as race weekend is closer. We expect about 1000 to 1200 marathoners and 500 to 750 half marathoners.
gerry beagan
osm26@ids.net
east greenwich USA
- Sunday, July 27, 2003 at 17:06:13 (ET)
How are the registration numbers for the race so far?
Mike
USA
- Thursday, July 24, 2003 at 13:52:39 (ET)
Nickolas - After much research, I have just picked up Pete Pfitzinger's book "Advanced Marathoning" and am planning to do the training plan that peaks at 55 mpw. I think you should take a look at it since it will fit into your schedule and it comes highly recommended. If you follow it, I'm sure you could get back to your 3:50 time. Good luck. Dawn
Dawn
dawnyoung@sympatico.ca
Toronto, ON Canada
- Sunday, July 13, 2003 at 09:26:30 (ET)
whoohah---YaHOo---WOoHOo---F U N...do you ever talk to yourself like THAT while jogging? I am in a need of a running partner, with HUMOR. I am located in Boston.
seung
seung.kim29@verizon.net
MA USA
- Sunday, July 13, 2003 at 03:13:38 (ET)
TRAINING WORRIES...
I have run marathons in the past, but I very much would like to run faster. Time is not on my side. I have a busy schedule and a family. I am unable to push my mileage past 50-60 miles per week. I usually can only do this for a few weeks in the summer and then it drops to 40/week. I have a partner that is running 70+ per week with continuous long runs of 12, 15, 18, 20. This is only his first marathon. He has never been a runner and just started serious this year. I have been running for 20 years and would like to do a 3:50 pace for this race, but my best time is 4:07 and that was 10 years ago. I feel that if he is doing this kind of running then I must do it also in order to do a better time.
Please advise
Nicholas
USA
- Saturday, July 12, 2003 at 12:25:32 (ET)
Can anyone who has run both OSM and Cape Cod Marathon (CCM) comment on the differences on the hills on these 2 courses? I did CCM in 2002 as my first marathon and the 10+ miles of hills on the 2nd half really beat me up. I'm not necessarily looking for a flat course, but I would like one that is much flatter than CCM. Can you either compare the 2 courses or give me an idea of how bad the hills are in OSM?
Thanks, Dawn
Dawn
dawnyoung@sympatico.ca
Toronto, ON Canada
- Saturday, July 12, 2003 at 11:32:46 (ET)
What are the ten best times run by a Rhode Island native at the marathon distance?
listed below are 7 I could think of:
Tom Ratcliffe 2:14 1987
Roland Davide 2:14 1983
Bobby Doyle 2:14 1979
Tom Grundy 2:16 1980
Scott Goff 2:16 2003
Mark Skinkle 2:17 1983
Pat Gillolly 2:20 1991
Do you know some others below 2:20?
Are these years correct?
Meighread
Dandeneaufamily@yahoo.com
Taunton, MA USA
- Tuesday, July 08, 2003 at 20:22:15 (ET)
David and everyone:If you enter the marathon and decide that your training or other factors make you doubt your ability to go the full distance, you can certainly shift your entry to the half marathon. We would hope you would do this shift at least a week before race weekend and you should understand you would not be entitled to a refund of the difference of entry fee from the marathon to the half marathon.
gerry beagan
osm26@ids.net
east greenwich, RI USA
- Tuesday, July 01, 2003 at 21:56:22 (ET)
I wondered if I am registered to run the marathon, can I run the half-marathon instead if I decide I am not ready to run the full 26.2?
Dave
david.sullivan@fmr.com
boston, MA USA
- Tuesday, July 01, 2003 at 15:12:08 (ET)
To Donna and everyone: We can certainly take the issue of pace leaders under consideration. It depends, of course, on finding enough quality runners willing to run the distance at a pace for the numerous groups and, therefore, sacrifice the marathon effort. We will work on it and see if we can get it done in time to alert all entrants.
gerry beagan
osm26@ids.net
east greenwich, RI USA
- Sunday, June 29, 2003 at 17:23:09 (ET)
I have run a number of marathons, but have most enjoyed Hartford and Chicago, because both of them set up pace groups. At each of these marathons, a group leader was pre-designated for each of the paces from 7:30 min/mile to 10 min/mile. Runners could sign up at the expo to join a pace group. The morning of the marathon, we simply had to find the pace leader holding the sign with the right pace.
It was a great idea for 2 reasons: 1)it helped people to finish within their goal times (which for me was important as I had to finish within 3 1/2 hours to qualify for Boston), and 2)it created a lot of comaraderie for those of us who like to socialize while we run. PLEASE TELL ME THAT OSM DOES PACE GROUPS!! If you have not in that past, please consider it.
Either way, I am really looking forward to OSM! - Donna
Donna
DonnaUtakis@yahoo.com
Amherst, MA USA
- Saturday, June 28, 2003 at 14:18:12 (ET)
I'm preparing for the 2003 OSM. If anyone is interested in an occasional training partner, I'd love the company, especially for some long (15-22 miles) runs. My pace for long runs is between 7:30 and 8:30.
Mike
ri_runner@hotmail.com
South County, RI USA
- Monday, June 23, 2003 at 21:15:55 (ET)
Family and friends are welocme at both the start and the finish areas, however, the best place to meet following the race would be inside the Convention Center at or near exhibit hall D where post race refreshments are served. The area immediately behind the finish line will be closed off to the public and runners will leave the finish area and go immediately into the convention center and up escalators to the third floor. There are several other entrances for spectators, family and friends to enter the convention center and access the third floor. In all cases it is wise to select a meeting place before the race.
gerry beagan
osm26@ids.net
east greenwich, RI USA
- Wednesday, June 11, 2003 at 17:16:54 (ET)
Are family members allowed to be at the starting line and finish line or is there a separate waiting area for them?
Cyndy
nygal2000@yahoo.com
NY USA
- Wednesday, June 11, 2003 at 16:46:12 (ET)
Donna,
Check out http://www.nyrrc.org/nyrrc/marathon/training/program.html
I used the First-Time and casual marathoner schedule last
year for my first marathon. I had just started running in March and started this training program right about this time last year for the 2002 OSM. I didn't complete many of my long runs, and that was a big mistake. I was able, however, to run the entire way without walking.
Joseph
new_balance365@hotmail.com
Narragansett, RI USA
- Tuesday, June 10, 2003 at 08:41:30 (ET)
Any websites that will help with a training schedule for a first timer?
Donna
davedonnasweet@hotmail.com
Narragansett, RI USA
- Monday, June 09, 2003 at 14:39:00 (ET)
To Joseph and all, yes, the marathoners will have yellow numbers and the half marathoners will have blue numbers.
Gerry Beagan
osm26@ids.net
east greenwich, RI USA
- Tuesday, June 03, 2003 at 17:45:35 (ET)
Will the race numbers for the half and full marathon be different colors so we can tell who we're racing against?
Joseph
new_balance365@hotmail.com
Kingston, RI USA
- Tuesday, June 03, 2003 at 11:17:55 (ET)
I'm in favor of anything that will prevent me from hitting the wall this year! I don't care about taste, I want carbs, and lots of them. I've heard good things about Ultima. You can get it at Camires in Wakefield.
Joseph
new_balance365@hotmail.com
Kingston USA
- Tuesday, June 03, 2003 at 11:15:41 (ET)
I work for Ultima Replenisher and would like to add some information about why Ultima is an ideal hydrator for the course of marathons, including the Ocean State Marathon. First, we are unique in that we are a true hydrator. We provide all 5 essential electrolytes: calcium, chloride, magnesium, potassium and sodium. We supply ratios of these electrolytes/salts in ratios similar to those in our bodies, so that they are easily absorbed and utilized. Typical "sports drinks" use 2 or 3 of the electrolytes, with higher than beneficial amounts of sodium. Ultima also is very easy on the stomach as it has zero sugar and only the complex carb, maltodextrin, which makes it compatible to the gels, which many marathoners, including myself, use. Further, Ultima is unique in that we use no artificial colors, flavors, or sweeteners. In the past, flavor has been a downside ("vitaminy"), but the new orange and lemon/lime flavors (water soluble vitamins are better masked) are very well received. Ultima is easy to find in running specialty stores nationwide, such as Rhode Runner in Providence. We hope that runners try Ultima, as we know it works and have much confidence that it will be liked. Please email me directly with any further comments or questions. We know we cannot please all, but aim to please as many as we can. Thank you, Seth Bovio, Chief Operation Officer, UHP - Inc. 888.663.8584
Seth Bovio
sbovio@ultimareplenisher.com
New York, NY USA
- Thursday, May 22, 2003 at 22:47:01 (ET)
Lisa and everyone, Yes Ultima is the fluid replenishment drink to be used on course this year. We have been assured by Ultima that the new product line has been greatly improved and our research into Ultima's reception at recent races bears that out. We are confident the product will be well received at OSM as well.
gerry beagan
osm26@ids.net
east greenwich, RI USA
- Thursday, May 22, 2003 at 17:15:40 (ET)
Please tell me that Ultima is NOT the drink being offered at OSM '03!
Lisa
RI USA
- Thursday, May 22, 2003 at 12:17:59 (ET)
As of today, the OSM does not have a title sponsor - which puts it in the same spot as 70% of US Marathons...
I've read with interest the questions below of how this will affect the race: the answer is that the Ocean State Marathon will be a fantastic event as always, but might not be able to hand out $50K of prize money as in past years. So, unless you're a Kenyan planning to run sub-2:20, this probably won't affect you and shouldn't affect your choice to run the 2003 OSM or Half-Marathon.
What should you do? Well, if you're reading this page, then you're probably interested in this race - and you should sign up today!!! The fact is that the more registrants who sign up early, the better the chance that the OSM will be able to secure a title sponsor (if the race received 1,000 registrants by June 1, I'd bet Gerry would have companies begging to be title sponsor)... Without a title sponsor the race will be fine. With a title sponsor, the race will have more money for prizes and advertising. Without you as a runner, the race will be in trouble. With you as a runner - the race will be great. So, really, if you're thinking about the OSM - commit to it early and help keep this great race great.
John Elliott
JElliott@MarathonGuide.com
New York, NY USA
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 07:30:16 (ET)
Have run two Ocean States now - had a blast both times - even in the rain last October which was significant other's 1st Marathon. Will both be back this year with Boston being our only other Marathon.
Question will OSM have a booth at the Boston Expo next weekend so we can look out for you and say hi?
Paul Howard
paulhoward@cox.net
Manchester United Kingdom
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 12:27:35 (ET)
Jayne and everyone,
The half marathon course will follow the first 11.1 miles of the marathon course. At that point the half marathoners will turn left on Broad Street and return downcity for the final 2 miles to the RI Convention Center, where both races will finish. The exact route for the final 2 miles is being worked on and will be certfied. Once certified the additional section will be added to the existing course map on the course info page. Both races will start together at 7:55 am from the state capitol.
gerry beagan
osm26@ids.net
East Greenwich, RI USA
- Sunday, March 09, 2003 at 17:59:06 (ET)
Can you please post what the 1/2 marathon course will be?
jayne
jaylista@aol.com
north kingstown, RI USA
- Sunday, March 09, 2003 at 17:01:39 (ET)
Lisa and everyone, We have every intention of running OSM and the OSM Half Marathon as scheduled. In the unlikely event that we are unable to secure sufficient sponsorship to present the events in a first class manner we will immediately make the news known. Please check back with these pages for updates.
gerry beagan
osm26@ids.net
east greenwich, RI USA
- Wednesday, February 26, 2003 at 21:19:42 (ET)
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